Ma Dong (China Central Television host):
more than teachers, earthquake and today has more than forty days out. Have yet to rebuild the ruins, smoke is gone, but it seems to have changed many things around us, perhaps we should received a lot of things. I ask you, this forty days, has been appearing in your mind and will is what?
Yu:
of course, first of all those touched by the whole of China and the world screen. No matter how many times broadcast, I will again and again. The pictures we have seen with the screen is not a hero, like all the characters inside the most ordinary Chinese people, occupation, age is not the same, the number of very large, their reactions and expressions of all the Chinese people would have for it. So, I learned from these images, re-reading of the Chinese people, re-reading of the Chinese civilization.
Ma Dong:
most of these pictures resounding slogan is Solution of the Chinese people an opportunity to do?
Yu:
right. can not underestimate this. because neither China nor the world, have experienced a long so-called Several talked about the ancient heroes in the success or failure of strategies of power, praise time and again there is no justice at all in the occupation and burning sweep, do not care so the loss of life, people killed or injured. Until modern times, Strong, for example, primary school and secondary school at the time an idea is always being taught, if the school caught fire near the warehouse, the warehouse, there are a lot of cotton bales, the children should jump into the scene to rescue the cotton bag, because it is ; state property. popularity, large response, large moving. the world all things, the first precious is human life. see people under the rubble in Wenchuan, no matter who he is, whether he is in the beginning or end of life, as long as there is a trace of breath Rescue workers will spend a few hours, ten hours, digging, digging, digging. one o'clock dug out, will reach in, holding the hand of the victims, asking him to insist, but let him talk more, for fear that he consumed energy. When excavated, the audience cheered. Should it fail, the audience in silence. these scenes, the national audience watching on television hold your breath, this is really a The unprecedented popularity, but also a sense of cultural unprecedented ultimate display. As the country 1.3 billion people in mourning rituals, but also a sense of heaven and earth. China is the world's most populous nation, therefore, the large spread and large display also has important anthropological significance. the human future will encounter a lot of unexpected disaster, but with the large spread and large display, we can fight for human disaster will increase a lot of optimism.
Ma Dong:
in the , cynical, but in this country three minutes of silence to the victims of the time compatriots, are also in awe. some friends, has refused to sublime, but this time, and never came out denying the noble society. Why?
Yu:
This is because, they finally met the ultimate value. In daily life, rarely reflected in the ultimate value, we are just walking in the strange strange ideas and practices. Some people, life has not met the ultimate value of the torture, which is a lifetime in the reject high A helmet masturbation has been the life of the body in a natural empathy. He shed tears for those who sacrificed their lives to save students and teachers, for those folks regardless of their loved ones and save the officials, for those passing through numerous military and rescue people. This means that he has with those who established the heroic spirit of ecstasy of communication, his own mind the long-buried Friends, family, co-verification. national collective validation is a powerful, long lines of blood donors, including each city team, including the Old and join together a large number of contributions to the general public, but also in that a nationwide moment of silence. a result, these original walking in the Great save. It does not help a lot of people who suffered life-threatening. We found we still had the warmest heart, the kindest light, resulting in the confidence of their own. This kind of trust and their trust in others produced simultaneously, the two together so that we trust in the nation, an increase of more confidence in mankind. Of course, the disaster will pass, tomorrow, we will have the trivialization of the day, but since there was a yesterday moved, the trivialization of tomorrow is not the same.
Ma Dong:
I teacher, I think 5.12 in the Chinese history, there will be a very important position. Historians may look for it time coordinates, and cultural scholars might go looking for it to make sense of the whole society in the cultural shift. I want to ask, what is the significance of its culture?
Yu:
to ask cultural significance, we must first Q. What is culture. there is more than two hundred definitions of culture, I proposed two years ago, a simple definition: of this definition, the most important word is the spiritual value, because what kind of lifestyle can become a habit, it is precisely the spirit of the value of long-term selection. I am a good presentation of Chinese culture for many years of dissatisfaction, is that the spiritual values The serious deficiencies. Yes, we talked a lot of ancient stories, characters, details, anecdotes, allusions, strokes, are pretty good, a lot of the audience, a lot of applause. But, on reflection always feel wrong. are all local , together but not right. Is this all that is spiritual values of Chinese civilization, where it? tell me it was warm and deeply moved by the world? it to tell me to future generations that the criteria to find the man and nature can interact with our fellow ? I'm not saying that is not about culture, that culture is the soul, not yet. scholars in Europe a few years ago, said: sorry to hear that, because they mean is that China is only a material product exporter. This is the middle, of course, ignorance and prejudice of foreign scholars, but we always talk about when different cultures to avoid the ultimate nature of spiritual values , it is true. Some scholars believe that the ultimate nature of spiritual values is always difficult, so getting more and more complex. They do not understand the spirit of a nation's ultimate value will reach into the nature of most people, is one of the most widely distributed. Once difficult, is lost.
MA East:
Yes ah, we are interested in poetry, we have a reading hot, hot read history, we have the traditional culture of heat, even antique furniture, antique collection, but also the waves in the heat. but for the soul of Chinese culture has always been nowhere near enough.
Yu:
each not the culture of living. It's like water fish, and that water, that is this culture of people from their mind, the natural release of emotional energy. Without this water, those fish, those specimens are not live. This Wenchuan earthquake, the Chinese culture, the hearts of people out of emotional energy release, which basically let the world see the spiritual values of Chinese culture. From now on, we are entitled to those European scholars said: When a lot of books on China is a spiritual value, do not believe, see May 12, 2008 after the Chinese TV! We would like to actively integrate into the world, but when the world and rejecting acceptance of our us, some even fear that the Chinese .5.12 then we seemed to see another way out, that is a spontaneously in the instinctive love of display, so that the exclusion of others, the more admired.
Yu:
the final analysis, this is we can not find their own spiritual values and cultural soul mm, and the self-confidence showing problems. a few months ago, I held in Kobe, Japan delivered a World Chinese Entrepreneurs Convention keynote speech that China let the world misunderstood, in addition to the inherent bias of external, but also because of our cultural discourse of the dislocation. I said, this is like a giant suddenly appeared in the streets, people know him through a long way, but also saw his huge body and the body mass, did not know his character and integrity, so naturally fear. If China is the giant, then , Giant's character and moral culture of China. Clearly, our culture has spread far dereliction of duty. We always talk about, the giant left thousands of years, how has the last trick, how strong; we are always showing off, the giant clothing a gold inlay, jade belt hung. All of this is totally inadequate for others and our own future generations understand the character and moral giant. This time, almost all through the transparent media, we see, the nature of this giant How good, how humanity, how people care for themselves, but also how love does not reject the outside world. So, this is a really big change.
Ma Dong:
you are in a song called writes poetry, and instantly crack the crust to let people see the truth. you mean you the truth about Chinese culture?
Yu:
right. I then wrote a sentence, then a few days, polished group of Chinese names of the world's eyes. Road trip also, Things for the People. Mohists is ; love heart. He said: western individualism is the prerequisite for many of the principles are very different, but the ultimate value and the full communion of all humanity.
Ma Dong:
us how to develop it, strengthen it, and do not let it over time goes fuzzy again?
Yu:
Indeed, the road of Chinese culture is often blurred. The most important reason is that In the cultural sector has been advertised in the so-called Bookstore seen, including the airport bookstall I often see up to is this book. TV and a variety of seminars, are also on this long, the road of Chinese culture, but rarely addressed. results, really into the , a civilization must fast from the off. the world who survive in the world and Chinese civilization has long been both annihilation of the ancient civilization, is one such stage of history. This time we finally understand the most hidden depths of the Chinese mind, not surgery, but the Road, the world's Road. Chinese civilization, the only secret of longevity, is here.
Ma Dong:
I know a good actor, he told me, standing on the ruins of the earthquake, he find that he will not play. He saw the ruins of the students stay in one textbook, textbook red pen outlines, the soul was greatly shocked. While technology does not work the previous performances, but this experience will After the rest of your life will be for the whole. It also reflects the In this way, collective as well. China has suffered since the nineteenth century, bullying powers, we have been backward to find their own problems, and will reach deep to find the pain of exploring, and made a unique conclusion. I wish to mention an outside objective eye. That is the great British philosopher Bertrand Russell, in his early twenties of the last century to China to investigate a lot of time, leaving, as his translation of Mr. Zhao Yuanren and other Chinese scholars hope to talk to him about the analysis of the Chinese people. Russell has made the Chinese people a lot of positive assessment, critical of those in Europe and America shame Hua Siwei, today also moved us to read. Speaking of the Chinese people's weaknesses, he said, Chinese people's greatest weakness is the lack of humanitarian enthusiasm, almost never enthusiastic relief donations, many Chinese people still in the heart of others secretly from the hi disaster.
can not say it position on the Chinese people very friendly master of philosophy in the framed Chinese. His observation is clearly of great universality and authenticity, even we Chinese people will nod in reading. But this time, the Chinese apparently to Mr. Russell the conclusions of a century ago overturned. Russell saw the Chinese collective psyche of a . truth is precious, but truth can be divided into many levels. the deepest level is cultural heritage for thousands of years, and be buried for thousands of years culture, it is not easy to find, unless there is any outbreak. This time, we met outbreaks, so that the deepest truth.
Ma Dong:
it will be re-buried you?
Yu:
Council. the past is buried, is meant in the future there may be buried. But there was a this time, we have a solid foundation, you can carefully study the reasons for the past buried, thought to be buried for future conditions. of course, but also from this outbreak to think that it retained the world, whereas not absolutely possible. I think that had a this time, even if more can not be completely buried, people will always remember that even in the most ordinary Chinese people's minds, there that is, , than the first line in the earthquake relief soldiers, armed police, doctors, intellectuals have a sense of powerlessness. The culture among the vanguard of the batch of distinguished journalists, presenters outstanding performance in the first line. In some of the TV show , some singers, actors are moving. However, more intellectuals do? In my opinion, and doctors in the military, the intellectuals do is to make this relief burst out in the goodness, love the spirit of consolidation, expansion, extension, making it the spirit of contemporary Chinese culture, has been living in the heart of the general public.
5.12 in the future there will be three possibilities. The first, the spirit of great love as wide infiltration; second, as the hero into the memory; third; just left a disaster memory. I think that is the third most likely, we remember the names and deeds of many heroes, many literary and artistic works will come description. but infrequent earthquakes, disasters do not often encounter, people will not find these heroes and their closely related, as we are far past the heroic story of that. intellectuals first task is to fight possible That is to make an occasional outbreak of the spirit of the event into the true soul of Chinese culture, extensive penetration into the spirit of Chinese people and the value of the coordinate axis.
Ma Dong:
This is obviously a lot more difficult, requires a lot of intellectuals to work together.
Yu:
right. I worry more than most intellectuals will spend in moving the discourse system previously keen to Box Fan this spirit, which do things small. I hope to have more people like you said earlier that the actor, I suddenly felt the system before dying words, to re looking for. people in my contact with the culture, some people make me angry. they and the general public compared to the 5.12 showing indifference can not be close tolerance. They claim that all the affairs of the community must demonstrate comments. In this regard, I can not agree completely. For the average distance and social problems remain calm and not wrong, but this is the nation's largest disaster relief and large, you and his son, as a member of the Chinese nation, the death of tens of thousands of lives actually have to distance, but still more than one billion people remain calm tears and relief work, it would be wrong. If, as I said before, this outbreak is the national spirit discovery of Chinese culture, then I can not help but say, you look at this issue is not culture, than people who lack qualifications and no culture.
Ma Dong:
you have any specific examples?
Yu:
, for example, recently some of the victims holding a portrait of the child kneeling in the rain, requiring punishment of those responsible for shoddy construction, was overseas media as a These victims are consistent with the Government's wishes, they knelt in the rain is in the continuation of the child's memorial ceremony, do not have any political meaning. to see such a scene anyone would cry, but we should be together with the doctor, help them up , to the tents to avoid the rain, and then persuade them to the process of rehabilitation in the spirit of not chew too much grief. Facts have proved that the victims of common sense, a persuasion on the nod. but there are some intellectuals have deliberately pushed these victims look forward to them in the direction, which really is not very humane. I want to sincerely persuade these men of letters, for 5.12, we must first learn from the memorial in, do not rush to comment on standing in the distance. You know what, under what to comment on? I find your comment is based upon a series of stereotypes, these stereotypes is fundamentally untenable.
Ma Dong:
5.12 does away with a lot of stereotypes. I know a young man, used to enjoy street dance, also stabbed tattoos. But this time, due to good health, he just rescued several people. We are past 80, the 90 after a lot of stereotypes, this is also breaking out.
Yu :
external image of many people, in fact, false image; many external identity, but also a false identity. culture in the most boring time in all the false image, false identities carved out a wide variety of line, then According to the boundaries of such a large increase from the program discussed. For example, young people will stab the street dance said to be infinite concern. more boring, and is divided from the lateral Henan, Hebei people, Shanghai, Shanxi, and so again on its merits. This kind of , the loss of cultural .5.12 Boulevard fact proved to be ridiculous culture, right? Please take a look at what the hero boy, at what point, but older than? take a look at the spontaneous donor provinces, where there are native the difference? should remember Goethe's words: With their clever people are divided into a variety of line, and finally With love, put them all down.
Ma Dong:
the last to ask a problem, you have a special relationship with the Dujiangyan, the re-visit and feel very strongly about it?
Yu:
Yes, feel strong. I wrote a few years ago, high school language textbooks collected. Therefore, many Chinese are the next generation from the first to know that my article After the world know that the Sichuan, rescue workers can not enter because of road resistance, all stranded in Dujiangyan, but looked back and also the hard-hit Dujiangyan. It is the love of the world map reading Chinese first names, but also the world witnessed the catastrophe of the first wound. I went to see the ruins of the terrible or as ferocious, and the ruins on the side of the bus opened also printed what I wrote, feel that stab the heart pain. In the core area of Dujiangyan, the Second Temple was destroyed, and most importantly Fulong earthquake also damaged the roof. Fulong thousand years ago on display in the original construction of Dujiangyan, a statue of Li Bing. The door shut , I can only watch from the door. inside the rubble, Duanmu broken windows, however, stand in the middle of the statue of Li Bing is still intact, still calm and quiet, watching everything. I suddenly thought of his nose close to the door , Li Bing is a concentrated form of Chinese culture. He did this in order to build Dujiangyan flood remediation, two thousand years, I wonder how many large and small, encountered disaster, but he was always calm and relaxed and Dujiangyan. Dujiangyan in the earthquake engineering or no damage, still turning water to moisten the affected land, comfort heroic victims. Chinese culture, it should be is that Bing, such water.
I had to leave the disaster area after the well-known social critic of Taiwan South Mr. Moon gave a dialogue across the ocean. He said: thorough value appeared. I said, well, let's work together to protect has already broken out of the spiritual values, the guardian of this world at least the same age Dujiangyan Avenue.
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